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== FYI: Schematics ==
 
Schematics: [[Minimig Board v1.0 schematic]]
 
 
== SRAM ==
 
[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39358&forum=8&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=40#forumpost460135 Dennis 070725]:<br>
 
* Use a single chip ram like [http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=209&PageID=259&fid=37&rpn=CY62167DV30&ref=sch this] one, available at [http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=428-1860-ND digikey] for example.
 
 
* Replacing the two 512k x 16 with one 1M x 16 bit ram will do away with one chip and free RAM_SEL1
 
 
 
== Power ==
 
== Power ==
* Include a +5V regulator on board OR use an ATX-style powerplug if you go Mini-ITX. The +5V regulator should be capable of providing about 1A to safely power all peripherals one might attach.
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* Suggestion: Include a +5V regulator on board OR use an ATX-style powerplug if you go Mini-ITX. The +5V regulator should be capable of providing about 1A to safely power all peripherals one might attach.
  
* Peak & average powerconsumption of the minimig v1 ..?
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* FYI: Peak & average powerconsumption of the minimig v1 ..?
 
:From what I have seen the power consumption is pretty constant. All boards I've built so far consume about <B>100mA</B> (excluding keyboard/mouse).
 
:From what I have seen the power consumption is pretty constant. All boards I've built so far consume about <B>100mA</B> (excluding keyboard/mouse).
  
* Any power or grounding issues?
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* FYI: Any power or grounding issues?
 
:I did use a "local-plane" setup. I have set most IO's to slow slewrates and drive currents.
 
:I did use a "local-plane" setup. I have set most IO's to slow slewrates and drive currents.
  
== FPGA SPI Dout ==
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== Issue: FPGA SPI_DOUT ==
 
* Hardwire the patch needed to get the current board to run. Alternatively, you can also swap pin 81 (IO_L31_4/DOUT/BUSY=SPI_DOUT) and pin 79 (IO_L32P_4/GCLK0=RAM A15) on the FPGA. This way you still have four user-IOs left. You do need to change the .UCF file though and recompile the core.
 
* Hardwire the patch needed to get the current board to run. Alternatively, you can also swap pin 81 (IO_L31_4/DOUT/BUSY=SPI_DOUT) and pin 79 (IO_L32P_4/GCLK0=RAM A15) on the FPGA. This way you still have four user-IOs left. You do need to change the .UCF file though and recompile the core.
 
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* The MMC card interface has a resistor based clock gate circuit around R50,R51. This should be replaced with a proper (single) gate "OR" chip. The margins on this signal are pretty tight on the current board. Also, R49 should be 0 ohm ideally to avoid problems when upgrading the PIC to a newer PIC18LF2620 or something similair. Margins are tight on that signal too atm.
 
* The MMC card interface has a resistor based clock gate circuit around R50,R51. This should be replaced with a proper (single) gate "OR" chip. The margins on this signal are pretty tight on the current board. Also, R49 should be 0 ohm ideally to avoid problems when upgrading the PIC to a newer PIC18LF2620 or something similair. Margins are tight on that signal too atm.
 
* Footnote: R49 sits between SD/MMC pin7 "D0" and SPI_DOUT ([[Minimig Board v1.0 sd-card|Picture]]).
 
* Footnote: R49 sits between SD/MMC pin7 "D0" and SPI_DOUT ([[Minimig Board v1.0 sd-card|Picture]]).
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* Improvement: pin11 SW#2 (write protect) and pin12 SW#3 (no card) maybe should be utilised to avoid accidential writes and interference with spi transfers ..?
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:(SW#2=open => write protect, SW#3=open => no card present)
  
 
== Issue: Possible back emf on audio output? ==
 
== Issue: Possible back emf on audio output? ==
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphone Headphones] may cause back-emf? (maybe supposed to be used as line-out only?)
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphone Headphones] may cause [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electromotive_force back-emf]? (maybe supposed to be used as line-out only?)
  
 
== Issue: X1,X2 operating mode? ==
 
== Issue: X1,X2 operating mode? ==
 
* Crystals X1 and X2 is operating in parallel or serial mode ?
 
* Crystals X1 and X2 is operating in parallel or serial mode ?
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:Parallel. X1 is the base PAL clock of 4.433MHz for the FPGA. X2 is the 20MHz PIC clock
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:Both are working independent of each other
  
 
== Issue: Video D/A inconsistency ==
 
== Issue: Video D/A inconsistency ==
* Video D/A have inconsistent resistor values. Use another prefered number series?
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* Current Video D/A use non linear resistor ladder values.
:Uses 4000, 2000, 1000, 560 ohm per color presently.
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:Current values:  4000Ω 2000Ω 1000Ω 560Ω
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:Suggested values: 4220Ω 2100Ω 1050Ω 523Ω
 
:
 
:
:[[Minimig Video d/a resistor ladder|Video d/a resistor ladder maths]]
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:[[Minimig Video d/a resistor ladder|Video D/A resistor ladder maths & simulations]]
  
== RS232 pin header wiring ==
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== Issue: SRAM ==
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[http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39358&forum=8&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=40#forumpost460135 Dennis 070725]:<br>
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* The original SRAM used [http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/ST%20Micro/Web%20Data/M68AW512M.pdf M68AW512M] is [http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=497-1744-ND no longer available]
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* Use a single chip ram like [http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=209&PageID=259&fid=37&rpn=CY62167DV30&ref=sch this] one, available at [http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=428-1860-ND digikey] for example.
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 +
* Replacing the two 512k x 16 with one 1M x 16 bit ram will do away with one chip and free RAM_SEL1
 +
 
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== Issue: LED resistors incorrect ==
 +
Seems R2, R61, R62 is incorrect due that R2 is powered by +5V, while R61, R62 is powered by +3,3V but all of them use the resistance value. [[LED|See LED maths]].
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== Info needed? RS232 pin header wiring ==
 
* Connection, RS232:
 
* Connection, RS232:
 
:[http://www.scantips.com/serial-db9.html Internal x86-pc bracket pin mapping]
 
:[http://www.scantips.com/serial-db9.html Internal x86-pc bracket pin mapping]
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:Which wiring scheme is the most common for [[COTS]] sourcing?
  
 
== Optimization: Clock generation ==
 
== Optimization: Clock generation ==
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== FYI: Component sizes ==
 
== FYI: Component sizes ==
 
* Component size is missing.
 
* Component size is missing.
:Seems resistor size 0805 or 0603 will fit solder pads. See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount technology#Package_sizes Wikipedia: Package sizes]
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:Seems resistor size 0805 or 0603 will fit solder pads. See also [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology#Package_sizes Wikipedia: Package sizes]
  
 
== FYI: C37 value ==
 
== FYI: C37 value ==
* Value of C37 100uF/6.3V?
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* Value of capacitor C37 is 100uF/6.3V
:Yes
 
  
 
== FYI: Video setup ==
 
== FYI: Video setup ==
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:/VSYNC = high (scart RGB enable)  
 
:/VSYNC = high (scart RGB enable)  
 
:/HSYNC = composite sync  
 
:/HSYNC = composite sync  
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== FYI: Possible SD/MMC incompability ==
 
== FYI: Possible SD/MMC incompability ==
 
* Some (esp Sandisk.com) SD/MMC cards aren't standards compliant! see [http://jderogee.tripod.com/FAQ_1541.htm 1541-III FAQ]
 
* Some (esp Sandisk.com) SD/MMC cards aren't standards compliant! see [http://jderogee.tripod.com/FAQ_1541.htm 1541-III FAQ]
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== FYI: Seems nFPGA_SEL2 is unused ==
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Neither MCU or FPGA firmware sources reference this line in any active way. This could free one I/O.<!-- Confirm with Dennis -->
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== FYI: I/O mode alternative ==
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LVTTL could be used instead of LVCMOS33. No cons/pros found at this time.
  
 
== FYI: Xilinx Place & Route limitation ==
 
== FYI: Xilinx Place & Route limitation ==
 
[http://www.xilinx.com/ise/products/webpack_config.htm Xilinx ISE Webpack device support]<br>
 
[http://www.xilinx.com/ise/products/webpack_config.htm Xilinx ISE Webpack device support]<br>
 
:Free version supports Spartan3 XC3S50 - XC3S1500 <!-- Has implication for m68k in hdl or expansions -->
 
:Free version supports Spartan3 XC3S50 - XC3S1500 <!-- Has implication for m68k in hdl or expansions -->

Latest revision as of 09:12, 24 August 2008

Power[edit]

  • Suggestion: Include a +5V regulator on board OR use an ATX-style powerplug if you go Mini-ITX. The +5V regulator should be capable of providing about 1A to safely power all peripherals one might attach.
  • FYI: Peak & average powerconsumption of the minimig v1 ..?
From what I have seen the power consumption is pretty constant. All boards I've built so far consume about 100mA (excluding keyboard/mouse).
  • FYI: Any power or grounding issues?
I did use a "local-plane" setup. I have set most IO's to slow slewrates and drive currents.

Issue: FPGA SPI_DOUT[edit]

  • Hardwire the patch needed to get the current board to run. Alternatively, you can also swap pin 81 (IO_L31_4/DOUT/BUSY=SPI_DOUT) and pin 79 (IO_L32P_4/GCLK0=RAM A15) on the FPGA. This way you still have four user-IOs left. You do need to change the .UCF file though and recompile the core.
  • PATCH needed to get rev 1 board working:
Disconnect net SPI_DOUT from pin 81 (IO_L31_4/DOUT/BUSY) of FPGA.
Connect net SPI_DOUT to pin 19 (IO_L23N_7) of FPGA (net USER3).
Reason:
Pin 81 is an output during FPGA config that blocks SPI to MMC during startup.

Issue: SD/MMC[edit]

  • SPI_DOUT from SD-Card via 1k resistor and FPGA (pin81) conflicts ..?
A gate would be better. During normal operation, the SPI out of the MMC card is tristated by disabling the MMC, the same goes at the FPGA side (it's a tristate port). This way, they can share the SPI bus.
  • The MMC card interface has a resistor based clock gate circuit around R50,R51. This should be replaced with a proper (single) gate "OR" chip. The margins on this signal are pretty tight on the current board. Also, R49 should be 0 ohm ideally to avoid problems when upgrading the PIC to a newer PIC18LF2620 or something similair. Margins are tight on that signal too atm.
  • Footnote: R49 sits between SD/MMC pin7 "D0" and SPI_DOUT (Picture).
  • Improvement: pin11 SW#2 (write protect) and pin12 SW#3 (no card) maybe should be utilised to avoid accidential writes and interference with spi transfers ..?
(SW#2=open => write protect, SW#3=open => no card present)

Issue: Possible back emf on audio output?[edit]

Issue: X1,X2 operating mode?[edit]

  • Crystals X1 and X2 is operating in parallel or serial mode ?
Parallel. X1 is the base PAL clock of 4.433MHz for the FPGA. X2 is the 20MHz PIC clock
Both are working independent of each other

Issue: Video D/A inconsistency[edit]

  • Current Video D/A use non linear resistor ladder values.
Current values: 4000Ω 2000Ω 1000Ω 560Ω
Suggested values: 4220Ω 2100Ω 1050Ω 523Ω
Video D/A resistor ladder maths & simulations

Issue: SRAM[edit]

Dennis 070725:

  • Use a single chip ram like this one, available at digikey for example.
  • Replacing the two 512k x 16 with one 1M x 16 bit ram will do away with one chip and free RAM_SEL1

Issue: LED resistors incorrect[edit]

Seems R2, R61, R62 is incorrect due that R2 is powered by +5V, while R61, R62 is powered by +3,3V but all of them use the resistance value. See LED maths.

Info needed? RS232 pin header wiring[edit]

  • Connection, RS232:
Internal x86-pc bracket pin mapping
Which wiring scheme is the most common for COTS sourcing?

Optimization: Clock generation[edit]

  • You could consider using a single 20MHz oscillator and figure out how to program the DCM to generator the proper clocks, this would spare a crystal.

Optimization: MCU & FPGA TxD sharing[edit]

  • MCU(pic18) & FPGA TxD via AND-gate to rid of one jumper:
Yes, no problem. However, all debug output of the PIC has to be disabled as not to interfer with the FPGA serial output.

Optimization: Use cdrom-soundcard cable?[edit]

  • Connection, Audio:
internal x86-pc cdrom -> soundcard analogue audio pinout
Voltage level: (3.3V/(560ohm + 560ohm + 32ohm))*32 ohm*1000 = 91,7mV

FYI: Power optimisation[edit]

Dennis 070803:

  • +1.25V and +2.5V can be hooked from +3.3V to save power ?
No gain
  • Why is R42 present, it's just sitting between +1,25V and GND?
Provides a minimum load for the LM1117.

FYI: CPU A0[edit]

  • Why is the CPU pin 19 (A0) not connected to anything ..?
The 68SEC000 is run in 16bit (selected by pin 8 (MODE=Vcc) ) mode, which means that only even addresses are used, hence the lsb address select is not needed.
The addressing of byte wide memory addresses is done using the LDS/UDS strobes.

FYI: SRAM UB/LB[edit]

  • Why does the SRAM use /UB and /LB when data is 16-bit anyway?
jkonstan 070801:
The UB & LB strobes on the SRAM are due to data bus addressing needed for the 68K cpu. 68K CPU has UDS* strobe for upper byte lane D15-D8 access, and 68K CPU has LDS* strobe for lower byte lane D7-D0 access. When 68K does a read, D15-D0 can be accessed as a word with 68K reading what it requires off of its Databus; however, a write access on a 68K CPU requires the byte lane be qualified. When UDS* active on a write cycle, UB* on SRAM must be active. When LDS* active on a write cycle, LB* on SRAM must be active.
D15........D8 D7........D0
Byte 0= Even Byte 1= Odd => (Word 0)
/UDS /LDS
etc..
Ie 68k writes are byte wide.

FYI: SD/MMC pcb layout pins[edit]

  • The SD-MMC slot has a 12-pin wide connection to pcb.
CD/D3, CMD, GND, VDD, CLOCK, GND, D0, D1, D2, SW#1, SW#2, SW#3
SW#1="gnd", SW#2=open=>write protect, SW#3=open=>no card present

FYI: Fpga pin ordering[edit]

  • Why is address/data pins to ram/cpu spread around despite dedicated board?
Became such way to ease the PCB layout.
  • Why FPGA I/O pins aren't in numerical order?
Was simple when starting out.

FYI: FPGA config voltage[edit]

  • FPGA configuration mode select M1,M0,M2 (pin 54, 55, 56) pins use VccAUX at +2.5V

FYI: keyboard + mouse wire sharing[edit]

  • Keyboard and mouse can share connection?
Won't save data lines.

FYI: Port overvoltage protection[edit]

  • Over/under voltage protection for keyboard or mouse port?
It is a minimal design. The Spartan has built-in ESD protection that this design relies on. :However, monitors and TV's are notorious for blowing up video ports so extra protection has been added there!

FYI: BAV99 is 3-pin[edit]

  • BAV99 diodes in the schematic is 3-pin not 2-pin as can be thought.

FYI: 15/31kHz missing reference[edit]

  • 15/31kHz selector is missing reference designation.

FYI: Component sizes[edit]

  • Component size is missing.
Seems resistor size 0805 or 0603 will fit solder pads. See also Wikipedia: Package sizes

FYI: C37 value[edit]

  • Value of capacitor C37 is 100uF/6.3V

FYI: Video setup[edit]

  • Video, in 15kHz mode:
/VSYNC = high (scart RGB enable)
/HSYNC = composite sync


FYI: Possible SD/MMC incompability[edit]

  • Some (esp Sandisk.com) SD/MMC cards aren't standards compliant! see 1541-III FAQ

FYI: Seems nFPGA_SEL2 is unused[edit]

Neither MCU or FPGA firmware sources reference this line in any active way. This could free one I/O.

FYI: I/O mode alternative[edit]

LVTTL could be used instead of LVCMOS33. No cons/pros found at this time.

FYI: Xilinx Place & Route limitation[edit]

Xilinx ISE Webpack device support

Free version supports Spartan3 XC3S50 - XC3S1500